DP-32SD White noise instead of audio after bounce and importing

[Jcstudios]

Unit. DP-32SD with latest firmware updated.

Hi, how do you fix this without starting over?

1st issue... I was bouncing 2 mono tracks, 7 & 8 to 1 stereo track, 21/22. 7 & 8 are back up vocals recorded directly onto the unit. I was doing it in sections in order to get the volumes equal and all in uniform. After about a dozen or so, the next bounce section on playback had white noise blaring out of the right side. I did an undo and tried again. This next attempt work like the previous. Next bounce, problem returns, sometimes both sides, sometimes just left or right. It’s now taking several attempts and prayers to just get one to bounce work. WTF?

2nd issue…After doing dozens and dozens of exports and imports, some to fix and adjust volume levels, and some to fix parts of wav file using WavPad, the white noise bounce problem has now included an audio playback import white noise problem. The silent parts of the file are quiet. It’s not until the audio part starts that the audio is a loud, full blast white noise!

I’m running 48k/24bit and double checked my conversions to save file as.

I saved my song as it currently is and was thinking of deleting unused files under “Song” hoping maybe that will fix it since there are quite a few now, but don’t want to loose anything I’ve recorded or the settings for each track.

So anyone on here that know what’s causing all this and corrective action? Any design engineers from Tascam that can help? I read previous trends about same subject but no clear solution so far from 7 years past. Bounce and import, white noise.

I’m using windows. 32g card checks out on usable SD’s per Tascam site.

Thanks,

JC

Update. I just recorded a guitar track and on playback 2nd pass no guitar just white noise. Now I can’t record, import, or bounce. This is a new development. I’ve been recording and editing, importing/exporting for weeks with no issues until today. Any help is welcomed. I backed up and saved everything including exporting all the tracks.

 

[Jcstudios]

Ok for anyone that may have experienced a similar episode while here’s what’s seems to be the cure. I must have had a pretty good build up of “Unused” tracks because after I deleted them in the song folder the problem appears to have resolved its self. I imported and uploaded several tracks and they all went fine. From what I understand those zz audio files piece together everything you do and perhaps something was corrupted or just too many of them in there so there you have it.

If anyone else has experienced the same problem please reply. I’d like to keep this discussion open for the time being just to be 100% certain I’m good.

JC

 

[Old No7]

Never experienced it -- but seriously, thanks for sharing this post and update, as hearing about "what not to do" from others on this forum is as important as learning what/how to do.

Old No7

 

[shredd]

What he said (@Old No7)...

For anyone who's concerned with it - there's a thread on the forum (search "consolidate") about consolidating a highly-fragmented track (consisting of oodles of "*.zz" fragments) to create a single, continuous zz file for that track (thus eliminating the P/S's need to manage/arrange/play the track from a string of zz's).
I'm not certain that doing so is critical (my workflow is such that almost EVERY track of any given project consists of countless edits, punch-in/outs, etc - and has many of those zz fragments)...

But - in order to minimize the processing strain, I DO tend to [Delete Unused] on ANYthing I'm working on, once I've gotten the take/edits/etc I want, to clear out the garbage I created while doing so (and thus remove the need for the DP to keep track of them)...I even eliminate/delete Virtual Tracks that are unsatisfactory and aren't in consideration of being used.

 

[Jcstudios]

Never experienced it -- but seriously, thanks for sharing this post and update, as hearing about "what not to do" from others on this forum is as important as learning what/how to do.

Old No7

You’re welcome and I couldn’t agree more.

 

[-mjk-]

Always backup your SD card.

And this: https://www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-equipment-related-tips.5817/post-44417

 

[shredd]

Always backup your SD card.

And this: https://www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-equipment-related-tips.5817/post-44417

And THAT. Thanx @-mjk- , that's the one I was referring to. Good housekeeping!

 

[-mjk-]

Quite a bit of work went into compiling those posts into the sticky threads. I think those are some of the most under-utilized tools on the forum.

I have a link to the New Members post in my sig. That specifically suggests getting familiar with the stick threads. Don't know what else I can do to promote them.

 

[Jcstudios]

Hey do any of you when you mixdown off your Tascam skip the mastering EQ. & Compression when you’re using another software to master? I have IZotope Ozone 9 and have been using a little bit of EQ. and light compression but wondering if I should just skip all that and let Ozone analyze my song and go from there? Ozone seems to do a good job with that and at that point it would be just a tweak here or there to polish it. One problem I had with last attempt after using the Tascam EQ. and Comp was I thought everything sounded ok, then I played it back in my car and found the bass and treble needed a little boost to get it to sound right. Normally I run my car EQ flat with a slight decrease in treble because of all the glass with the AC on and windows up.

JC

 

[Mark Richards]

when you mixdown off your Tascam skip the mastering EQ. & Compression when you’re using another software to master?

@Jcstudios, short answer: yes.

Have you checked out the Recording 101 forum's sticky threads on mixing and mastering? Lots of good discussions in those threads.

Also, I had posted a thread in the Songs forum that compares a song (fun, fun, fun) tracked on my DP-24, mixed on my D.A.W., and mastered on my DP-24 vs mastering the same D.A.W. mix using a stand-alone mastering pgm. Which is the "better" master? A matter of opinion, I think.

 

[-mjk-]

@Jcstudios, yes, certainly. Some even send their mixes to a Mastering engineer.

 

[David Porter]

One problem I had with last attempt after using the Tascam EQ. and Comp was I thought everything sounded ok, then I played it back in my car and found the bass and treble needed a little boost to get it to sound right. Normally I run my car EQ flat with a slight decrease in treble because of all the glass with the AC on and windows up.

JC

It's very much a part of the final mix and mastering process - especially for hobbyists and the like.... to make test mixes and try them on as many different playback systems as possible. With the aim of getting it to sound as good as possible across as many playback systems as is possible. It's my least favorite part of the process of making decent recordings as it's tedious and time consuming. But it is what it is.

 

[Jcstudios]

It sure is tedious. I found a better way to address this, I still mixdown with EQ and Comp then import to IZotope Ozone 9 and first run Master Assistant which gets me in the ball park. It also allows you to import a reference song if you want to try and have it bring in the plugins to get you close but has to be a very similar song or I doubt you get close. After it ran it didn’t apply and more compression said it was good they used their Dynamic Comp to check it during the process. What you have to do is run the loudest section or the chorus of your song and let it do it’s thing. After that I added an exciter and a couple other plugins piece meal until I got a good sound. Funny though when I made a copy and played it say in the car again, it still was off.

Now comes in the saving grace. They have another plug-in called Tonal Volume Control 2 which wow it really shows you where in the song the frequencies are sitting in the mix per 4 bands. You can choose a genre which I tried Modern and rock either would work. I had to go into their EQ. And Dynamic EQ. and adjust around to keep the music insides the band limits. The beginning was the biggest problem so I imported the song twice and saved them one master the other Intro and EQ’d the intro different to get everything balanced in the beginning since I couldn’t get it all done right with one pass. Next I downloaded to wav’s and used another program to copy and paste the intro into the Master which went perfectly. 2 step process for the song but now all parts sit within the limits of the plug-in and sounded good and balanced.

I have to say though I had to go back and remix on the Tascam to fix a few things which had I instead used a DAW the chit would have been done sooner and easier. Tonal Volume Control works with a DAW or stand alone which is what I have so I could in theory master anyone’s mix with it and Ozone has a plug-in that can bring up or down, Vocals, Bass or Drums which shoot it does just that their algos are top notch if you can’t go back to the tracks on the fly and fix it there instead.

 

[-mjk-]

Trying to keep things organized, while continuing the discussion:

Mastering Discussion

This mix had three different stereo plate reverb FX busses (vox buss, guitars buss, and vox+guitars on the master buss) each set to different pre-delays. At the mastering stage, I had been trying various multi-band compression configurations to give the vocals a bit of polish, and wasn't...

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