A Hybrid Test Mix - DP-24 / Mixbus 6

Discussion in 'Song Mixes: Tracks for review and critique' started by Mark Richards, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. Mark Richards

    Mark Richards Well-Known Member

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    I've been playing around with Mixbus 6 for a while now, and would appreciate any comments on a hybrid project I've been experimenting with.

    The song was tracked on my DP-24, ported to Mixbus 6 for mixdown on my Dell laptop, and given a final tweak using the Finalizer mastering program.

    One of Mixbus' features is the ability to make digital sound like analog. For this test project, I've intentionally made a mix that's a tad on the bright side on my reference system. The mix seems to translate well to home systems and headphones I've tested it on; somewhat less so over computer speakers; and not so much over cheap earbuds.

    So I'd appreciate thoughts on how it comes across on your reference systems, as well as any other comments/critiques on the mix quality.

    Keep in mind this isn't elevator music, so feel free to play it as loud as you like. :D

    Also, I'm not a professional musician or vocalist, so please be kind in that regard.:)

    Look forward to all comments, you won't hurt my feelings.
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  2. -mjk-

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    Hi Mark. First impression is - it's very wide. It's bright but I would say "modern bright" and not harsh.
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    You're right, mj. I used a side-mid ratio that was very wide. Easy to fix with a slight alteration of the ratio. Thanks. Will see how it sounds.

    Follow-up Edit:
    Reducing the side-mid ratio a tad made the mix more like a "live" performance might sound and also enhanced the bass a bit.

    Not sure which I prefer, but lean toward the original because it leaves a nice space in the center for the vocals.
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    Oh, I wasn't saying it was too wide, just that it was very wide. I like stereo width. :)
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    I don’t find the mix too bright.

    I’m a bass player so thus hopessly biased in this regard, but my ear and my tappin’ foot wants a littler fatter bass thump on the downbeats.

    I think you sing well, and have a cool voice, so maybe a little less effects on the vocal, let the natural quality come out more?

    Inspiring.. It would be fun to try this song...
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  6. Mark Richards

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    Thanks for your very kind words, JSchmo. I'll give it another tweak and see how it sounds with your suggestions.
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    Follow-up:
    Slight reduction in sound stage width, slight punch-up of bass (being mindful of effect on playback by various consumer speakers and headphones). Slight re-balance of vocals and vocal FX. This one's the keeper.

    Thanks mj and JSchmo. :)
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    Yes indeed I hear the mix improvements. Much more instrument separation.

    Not a mix topic per se but there is a bit of dissonance on guitar/keys chord transitions in a few spots - (“ echoing toNIGHT...”) a glissando effect of sorts that doesn’t make those whole step jumps. A harmonizer that isn’t tracking?
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  9. Mark Richards

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    I first did a mix/master completely "in the box" using only the DP-24.

    I wanted to see if Mixbus6 could improve on that master. Mixbus6 has a big advantage over mixing/mastering completely "in the box" on my DP-24 portastudio because the "Harrison Console" look/feel makes it easy for me to make subtle, targeted tweaks; and it's also much more intuitive for me than other DAWs I've tried.

    That's my amateur musicianship peeking out. This song challenged my performance chops, which is why I wanted to give it a try.
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  10. Brian Mac V

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    Hi Mark. Yes I do something similar with a couple of nice Channel Strips in Reaper, I've only got an old V3 Mixbus so I dont use it much now. Stick this guy on one of your tracks in Reaper(vst3) or Mixbus(vst), and don't route through the Busses or do!! See what you think!

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/loaded-step-by-40299242

    It's free, and only in Alpha. I've been using it for a few weeks. Watching the I/O, I like to push the PreAmp until 0VU, or maybe -3., and sometimes even less. Then work my way across - then tweak.

    Check out DDMF The Strip too, it's not free. I've found it does some magic when inserted on Mixbus Busses , even in default.
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