DA-88 back tension

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  1. sweatybetty

    sweatybetty New Member

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    Hello all, new guy here. I normally work on analog decks but I had a customer bring me 3 DA-88 decks that are in various needs of repair. I have yet to get one to record and play back. Hoping someone can give a little advice.
    The main problem Im having is 2 of the decks are eating tape. Ive narrowed it down to not enough back tension. If i apply a bit of pressure on the supply side tape guide, the tape stays in the guides and feeds properly. Without that pressure, the tape is all over the place.
    Is there a back tension adjustment? I do have the FSM but dont see anything in it concerning this.
    video here

    thanks all sb
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    Verify the back tension arm on the left side of the transport is swinging out when tape is threading and supplying back tension.
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    wkrbee,
    I was hoping you would reply!
    I found that the tension arm was seized, I thought I had it cleaned enough but I didnt. It wasnt free enough to engage the rotating cam, now fixed. It appears that a screw through a hole on the side of the transport is for a fine adjustment of the tension, correct?
    I now have one of the decks working properly but with occasional dropouts in playback. I have cleaned the head and head brushes which helped quite a bit but not completely.
    I have 3 decks to attempt to fix or for parts to get one working but I think I can get 2 in working condition. My customer is shickled tit-less that one is up and running.
    One of the A/D boards is not working. Do you have a trick for checking the power supply with the board in the deck?

    thanks again sb
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    Your best option is to get the Service manual to tell you how to setup back tension. The A/D PCB is powered from the D/A PCB. Check the soldering on the 78xx and 79xx regulators on the D/A/ card.
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    wkrbee,
    Thank you.
    I now have 2 of them working good. I did find one of the 7805 regulators bad. Pulled one from another card that was missing channels 5 & 6, and it now works. The tension problem is cured. I set the tension by adjusting the set screw until the tape-eating stopped, then another 1/4 turn.
    I also found signs of battery leakage on 2 of the sys-con boards, replaced the batteries, checked the traces, all good.
    About the only problem i have now is drop-outs on both the working decks. Im hoping its the tape (Maxell XR-metal)
    The customer did leave me a few Sony DARS-113MP blanks, Ill give one of them a try.

    Thanks again sb
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    Maxell XL is one of the worst tapes to use. The tape was formulated with a abrasive on it to keep consumer 8mm video recorder's heads clean. The best proven tapes were Sony DTRS 60 min and Fujifilm.
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    I did get a Sony tape formatted this afternoon and am going to try some recording tomorrow.
    I appreciate the help
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    I think the problems are solved. Recorded some music on the Sony tape, very few drop-outs, and only in the first 8-10 minutes of the tape. This seems to go away after the deck has been run for an hour or so.
    Once again, thank you for the help!
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