MODEL 12/16/24 TIPS & TRICKS (A Community Effort - Please Add Your Own Discoveries)

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  1. Mark Richards

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    This Sticky Thread is the place for Tips & Tricks for working with the Model 12/16/24.

    This is a Community Effort.
    Feel Free to Add Your Discoveries, Shortcuts, and Work-arounds.

    However
    PLEASE POST SPECIFIC QUESTIONS & COMMENTS IN THE GENERAL FORUM
    by either starting a new thread or searching the forum for a similar thread and posting there.

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    [New Thread Title] Model 12: Owner Manual

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    INDEX
    General Subjects
    • Post #1.......................... This Index
    • Post #2. Model 12/16/24....GETTING UP TO SPEED
    • Post #3. Model 12...............YOU HAVE MORE TRACKS THAN YOU MAY THINK
    • Post #4, Model 12...............RECORD A DIFFERENT TRACK WITHOUT CHANGING INPUTS
    • Post #7. Model 16/24.........HIGH CAPACITY SD CARD NOT RECOGNIZED
    • Post #10. Model 12/16/24 MAIN Fader Only Affects Audio to the XLR Speaker Outputs
    • Post #10. Model 12/16/24 MAIN Fader Only Affects Audio to the XLR Speaker Outputs
    • Post #11. Model 12/16/24 - Use SIG Indicator & Display Meter Screen When Tracking
    • Post #12. Model 12/16/24 - Performing a Manual Fade-In / Fade-Out
    Interfacing With a Computer
    • Post #5. Model 12/16/24....WORKING WITH A COMPUTER
    • Post #6. Model 12/16/24....PROBLEMS WITH DAW CONNECTIVITY
    • Post #8. The Model 16/24...USB AUDIO INTERFACE WITH A DAW
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  2. Mark Richards

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    Model 12/16/24: GETTING UP TO SPEED.
    1. This is professional level equipment.
    2. Don't expect to take it out of the box and have it run on autopilot.
    3. Download the Owner Manual before you buy. Learn as much as you can about the Model 12/16/24 so you can hit the ground running.
    4. Familiarize yourself with everything in the Owner Manual before diving in, especially if you are a beginner. The bad news for Model 16/24 users is the Owner Manual (OM) is a challenge (to be polite). The good news for Model 12 users is TASCAM wised up and created an OM for you that's easier to understand and follow.
    5. Much of the operational information available for the Model 16/24 is also applicable to the Model 12.
    6. Watch Model 16/24 video tutorials for insights on operation of your Model 12.
    7. The Model 12 seems to work better with 32 gig cards like the Transcend SDHC cards.
    8. Use a TASCAM tested SD card and format it using only the Model 12/16/24.
    9. Make sure you update the Model 12/16/24 to the latest firmware.
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    Model 12: YOU HAVE MORE TRACKS THAN YOU MAY THINK
    1. The last two Tracks of the Model 12 are the stereo master mix tracks (11/12).
    2. Keeping a Stereo Track Pair open, record instruments on Tracks 1~8.
    3. Do a sub-mix of the 8 instrument tracks as a stereo master mix (recorded on the last two tracks of the unit).
    4. Use the Swap Tracks tool to exchange instantaneously the stereo master mix recording on the last two tracks of the unit (11/12) with the open StereoTrack Pair (e.g., Stereo Tracks 9/10).
    5. Erase the original instrument tracks to free them up for vocal overdubs.
    6. Do a final stereo master mix (tracks 11/12) of the vocals tracks and the stereo instrument track.
    Please see also, this thread in the DP-24/32/SD forum on submixing and importing back to the machine:
    https://www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp-24-32-sd-production-tips.5747/#post-29234

    The process is not just one way. You can do submixes and import them back into the machine for further mixing.
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    Model 12: RECORD TO A DIFFERENT TRACK WITHOUT CHANGING INPUTS.
    1. Track swapping is instantaneous, so it's easy to move the current Recorded Track to another empty Track.
    2. Plug your mic into Channel 6.
    3. Record your lead vocal on Track 6.
    4. Swap Track 6 with empty Track 1.
    5. Record your 1st harmony vocal on now empty Track 6.
    6. Swap Track 6 with empty Track 2.
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    Model 12/16/24: WORKING WITH A COMPUTER
    1. Make sure your computer is updated to the most current OS.
    2. Make sure you're using the most current TASCAM audio driver.
    3. Make sure you're using the most current TASCAM software.
    4. Read and understand the relevant section(s) in the Owner Manual.
    5. Use one of the TASCAM tested/listed D.A.W. programs.
    6. The Model 12 used as a D.A.W. controller works perfectly as long as you use a compatible D.A.W. program.
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    Model 12/16/24: PROBLEMS WITH D.A.W. CONNECTIVITY
    (e.g., only able to record small snippets with ASIO; unable to playback at all; completely frozen unit)
    1. Use a shorter USB cable.
    2. Use a shielded USB 3.1 rated cable from a reputable company.
    3. Make sure your Model 12/16/24 is the only USB source connected to the computer.
    4. Set the Buffer to at least 128.
    5. If using a Windows computer, set the Model 12/16/24 to output the stereo mix tracks as the Windows Microphone (requires balancing the volume in Windows).
    6. Channels 1 and 2 must be used to output D.A.W. audio through your monitors or headphone.
    7. Model 12 Used As a Controller: In the Model 12 Menu, select D.A.W. control mode. Open your D.A.W. program and in the settings, select the Model 12 for in/out and save. Instructions for that are included in the D.A.W. Control Manual available for download on TASCAM's website.
    NOTE
    As TASCAM releases updates, some of these issues may be addressed.
    Always refer to the TASCAM release notes and the information in
    this Forum's VIDEOs Sticky for the most current information about D.A.W. connectivity.​
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    Model 16/24: HIGH CAPACITY SD CARD NOT RECOGNIZED

    If you just bought your Model 16/24, are using the TASCAM tested Transcend UHS-I SD 300S 256GB SDXC, but get an “Invalid card / Change card” error message, the most likely cause is the Model 16/24 has out-of-date firmware.
    1. Insert and format a 16gb or 32gb SD card made by a reliable manufacturer (such as the SanDisk SDSDUSC-016G).
    2. Format the SD card in the Model 16/24.
    3. After the format process has completed, download and update to the latest firmware using the installed 16/32gb SD card.
    Once the firmware has been updated, the system should recognize the 256gb SD card. If not, a call or email to TASCAM support is in order.
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    The Model 16/24: USB AUDIO INTERFACE WITH A D.A.W.

    The Model 16/24 is not a D.A.W. control surface. Only the Model 12 acts as a control surface.
    The Model 16/24 has USB audio interface capability only.
    Note that much of the information in this post is applicable also to the Model 12.

    D.A.W. Sessions Can Be Mixed Down To The Model 16/24
    1. When the session originates in the D.A.W. (combo of virtual instruments and real instruments); and
    2. When the session has originated as an import from the SD card of a Model 24 session that first needs some editing or manipulation with D.A.W. plug-ins.
    D.A.W. As A Playback Source
    1. The D.A.W. can serve as the playback device for mixing tracks on the Model 16/24.
    2. The D.A.W. must have the ability to assign each track in the D.A.W. to it's own output in order to send its tracks to their own individual Channels on the Model 16/24.
    3. Make sure the MODE selector switch on the Model 24 is set to PC.
    4. Make sure USB/Storage is not activated. When USB/Storage is activated, the USB interface is turned off. (USB/Storage is for the sole purpose of transferring files back and forth between the PC and Model 16/24.)
    5. Make sure your D.A.W. settings are set for ASIO.
    Printing D.A.W. Tracks To The Model 16/24 Master Tracks (15/16 or 23/24)
    1. Edit or manipulate the D.A.W. tracks in the D.A.W. as needed.
    2. Set the channel strips on the Model 16/24 to "PC".
    3. Start record on the Model 16/24 by pressing the Transport Record button with no individual Model 16/24 tracks armed.
    4. Play back the D.A.W. tracks to record to the Model 16/24 Master tracks (15/16 or 23/24)
    Record Tracks From The D.A.W. To The Model 16/24's Individual Tracks
    1. For each D.A.W. track to be sent to the Model 16/24, in the D.A.W. add a hardware send and assign the D.A.W. track to the desired channel input on the Model 16/24.
    2. Create a new song in the Model 16/24.
    3. On the Model 16/24, for each track in the D.A.W., set the corresponding Channel Mode on the Model 16/24 to "PC".
    4. On the Model 16/24 Arm each track you wish to record on.
    5. On the Model 16/24, adjust the channel strips' Low-pass Filter and Compressor to desired settings if needed.
    6. Press the Transport Record button on the Model 16/24 and press “Play” on the D.A.W.
    7. To listen back to what you transferred to the Model 16/24's individual MTR tracks, switch the Channel MODE for each track to MTR to audition the recorded tracks.
    Other Important Tips
    1. Use a template in the D.A.W. with 14 or 22 tracks respectively already created and configured to send each track to the corresponding Channel input on the Model 16/24.
    2. When tracking, record levels on the Model 16/24 are set with the Gain Knobs for each channel strip, not the Channel Faders. Channel Faders are used only for monitoring, playback, and mix-down.
    3. There are three ways to use the Channel's Low-pass Filter and Compressor:
    • When tracking directly to the Model 16/24 and Channel MODE switch is set to "Live".
    • When recording from a D.A.W. directly to individual Model 16/24 tracks, and Channel MODE switch is set to PC.
    • When bouncing out and coming back in through a Channel input and Channel MODE switch is set to “Live”.
    The Model 16/24 Low-pass Filter and Compressor can only print during tracking.​
    They are not available for mix-down to the stereo master tracks ( 15/16 and 23/24).

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    This Tips & Tricks sticky post is based on information obtained from various posts
    by the following forum members who are Model 16/24 users:
    Robin Courtenay
    Matthew Fogal
    Tyrine Haywood
    Elliot Keys
    Jon Wilson
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  9. robin courtenay

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    You can record to model24 and DAW at the same time with USB connected and mode switch set to live.
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    Model 12/16/24 MAIN Fader Only Affects Audio to the XLR Speaker Outputs
    • Tascam Support confirms that the MAIN fader only effects the audio signal going to the XLR analog speaker outputs.
    • The Control Room and Headphone circuits have their own separate stereo volume control knobs for the audio going to the Control Room.
    • These signal flows are shown clearly in the Block Diagram.
    Moving the MAIN fader has no impact on the mix-down of the signal on the Channels (1~10, 1~14, 1~22, respectively) regardless of whether the Channel strip MODE is set to "Live", PC, or MTR.

    Therefore it is not possible on the Model 12/16/24 to print a fade-out at the end of a song directly to the 2-track stereo master MTR Tracks (11/12, 15/16, 23/24 respectively) because the MAIN fader is not part of that mix-down circuit.

    Only the Channel faders can be used to adjust the signal going to the 2-track stereo master MTR Tracks (11/12, 15/16, 23/24, respectively).
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    Model 12/16/24 - Use the Sig Indicator & Display Channel Meter Screen When Tracking

    When tracking, the incoming Channel signal levels should be evaluated using the Channel SIG indicators and the Channel level meters on the Display Meter Screen.
    • The SIG indicator will light green when a signal is input (-56dB or higher). If a SIG indicator stays lit red continuously, lower the GAIN knob.
    • The Meter Screen display shows the actual levels of the signals being input to the unit and recorded.
    The MAIN MIX L/R stereo meters should not be used to evaluate an incoming signal, as the MAIN stereo meters are not in the signal path to any of the MODE options ("Live", MTR, PC).

    The MAIN MIX L/R stereo meters are dependent on the MAIN fader level position. The stereo meters only reflect the signal level going post-MAIN-fader to the XLR speaker outputs (as indicted in the Block Diagram).
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    Model 12/16/24 - Performing a Manual Fade-In / Fade-Out

    One of the shortcomings of the Model 12/16/24 as a stand-alone MTR console is the inability to perform an easy manual fade-in or fade-out when mixing a song because the MAIN stereo fader is not in the mix-down path.

    However, there's a simple work-around:
    • Examination of the Block diagram shows the Channel signal can be assigned to the stereo Sub-mix after all Channel strip tools, including the Channel fader.
    • The Block Diagram also shows the stereo Sub-mix Bus looping back into the stereo MAIN L/R Bus (from which the bus signal goes to the 2-Track master recorder - tracks 11/12, 15/16, 23/24, respectively).
    During the mix-down process, for those times when it's desirable to perform a manual fade for a song:

    Rather than assigning the Channels to the MAIN bus during mix down
    • Assign the Channels to the stereo Sub-mix bus and assign the Sub-mix bus to the MAIN bus.
    • Use the Sub-mix bus fader to control the manual fade as the song is recorded onto the 2-Track Master.
    CAVEAT
    The FX circuit does not loop back into the Sub-mix circuit. Instead, the FX circuit loops back to the MAIN L/R circuit. So the FX return(s) cannot be controlled by the Sub-mix fader.

    If you've used Channel FX Sends as part of the mix-down, you will also need to manually fade out the FX separately as the fade progresses by
    • Turning down the Channel FX knob(s) or
    • Turning down the FX "To MAIN L/R" knob in the Effect section.
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