Thanks Nikola, I saw that. That one on ebay is a used one, fortunately last night I found 2 new ones in their boxes and never used. So I'm on my way to hooking up a Sony Apr24 2" Reel to Reel Recorder that is almost new as well to my DM 4800. That will give me 16 tracks, I have to go that way because I only have slot 3 & 4 available, being Firewire is on slot 1 and Surround is on Slot 2. I can always switch a cable if I need all 24 tracks. Thanks again