New Song: "Whiskey Spin"

mnkorte

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Well, it took me two weeks but I finally got around to getting this one "mostly" done. Working on the DP-24 is definitely more time consuming than my DAW, but I had a lot of fun being hands on!

Let me know what you guys think! At some point I may fix a few boo-boos, but I'm putting a pin in it for now:

Whiskey Spin

Thanks!

Marc
 
What do I think?
I think that "DAW" vs "Hardware" recording is probably the new "Mac vs. PC" battleground of the music world...though it's pretty obvious that DAW is the winner, and has been for a while. But there's people like me who love their MTR-based workflow, and would rather scrub the bathtub than record on a computer.

Tune sounds good tho.

I do the same thing: I think a song is "done" - but it can always be pretty'd up/improved. It only took me about 15 years to grasp the idea of keeping a recorded projects' trax for future working-on...yes, I was young/dumb enough to think that when I "finished" a song, it was "done". Now I know better, and now keep my projects for the ability to revisit/rework/re-whatever...
Never said I wuz smart!!! 😜
 
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I think that "DAW" vs "Hardware" recording is probably the new "Mac vs. PC" battleground of the music world
Please, anything but this!

 
@mnkorte, Clean, nice and raw sounding. Nice work man.
 
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When you posted this song, I was caught up in one of life's little surprises, and never got to hear it. I stumbled on it today, and wanted to add a "well done" to the previous comments. I particularly like how you captured the tone of the guitar and your vocal - crisp, clear, natural - as if I were standing right in front of you.:)

If you have some time, I think it would be interesting to hear about your recording, mixing, and mastering process.
 
Thanks Mark!

I had to go back to my track sheet from November to dig up my notes:

Tracking:

I used the Tascam M35 mixer preamps to add some transformer color and my ART VLA compressor on the way in. Comp was 2:1; Attack 25ms; release 150ms, only 1-2 db reduction going in.

Martin SP-000 -> Shure PG81 -> Tascam M35 -> ART comp -> Tascam input EQ

For the acoustics I use the input EQ's to roll off everything below 80HZ and pulled out some mud around 225HZ

The guitar solo is a Harley Benton J45 knock off, setup was same as the Martin above.

Vocal were the same chain except I used a Stellar CM-6 tube mic. Input EQ rolled off everything below 100HZ, and I eq'd out a spot around 3-4Khz, where my voice has a nasally, "honk" think going on lol. I bumped up the ratio on the compressor to 3:1 for the vocals.

Drums were from Logic pro. Never did like the sound. At some point, I'll get back to it and actually records them properly.

Mixing:
This one was pretty sparse. I had 3 guitars:

gtr left - panned at 9 o clock, added a little 1.2KHZ
gtr rght - panned at 3 o clock, added a little 1.2KHZ
gtr solo - centered
Bass guitar - centered

lead vocal - centered
doubled vocal - centered, super low in the mix

Drums - stereo track from logic. Didn't do much to that, just imported it.

Reverb - Plate. Diffusion at 60, predelay was 25ms and time was 2 seconds. Once I liked the reverb mix, I bounced it pre-fader to a stereo track so I could EQ out the mud. Then I turned off the reverb on all of the tracks and just used the fader on the new stereo track to bring it back in.

Delay - I did the same bounce as above. This was a short slapback stereo delay around 100ms, no predelay. EQ: rolled off everything under 225HZ. I think I only used this sparingly on the lead vocal.

Submixes:

when I was in a decent place with the mix, I did a hack to create the submixes, which actually worked really well. I sent each soloed group out on the main L/R outputs and out to my compressor and recorded them back in on stereo tracks. I monitored through headphones for this part. I didn't want to use the sends, because they are mono and it would flatten the reverbs and delays:

I soloed each "group" section and did a bounce:

rhythm mix (bass & drums) -> main out L/R -> Art PRO VLA Compressor -> inputs G/H -> stereo track 13-14
vocal mix -> main out L/R -> Art PRO VLA Compressor -> inputs G/H -> stereo track 15-16
guitar mix -> main out L/R -> Art PRO VLA Compressor -> inputs G/H -> stereo track 17-18

I forget the compressor settings, but they were mellow, only 1-2 db gain reduction to glue stuff together.

Mastering:

Multiband Compressor
Low 32Hz – 150Hz-18dB, 2.5:1, attack 20 ms, release 120ms, GR 1–2dB
Mid 150Hz – 3.5kHz-16dB 2.5:1 15ms100ms 2–3dB
High 3.5kHz – 18kHz-14dB, 3:1, attack 90ms, release 10ms, GR 1–2dB

Mastering EQ
Low +2dB, 100Hz
Mid -2dB, 1kHz, Q: 0.5
High -2dB 12kHz

I normalized and then did the trick Phil mentions in his videos about going back in and using the basic compressor to knock -1 db off the normalized mix to keep it from hitting zero at the loudest part.

I think that was it! Let me know if you guys have any other questions. I have gone to the dark side for the moment and back in a DAW, but I do plan to finish my acoustic album on the DP-24 in the future.
 

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