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This topic was touched on here but have just uploaded an old recording which used the same technique of connecting to a mixer's 'insert' points at a concert, so thought it might be useful.
The quick way of using inserts for this is to partially insert a standard jack cable so the signal can be tapped without breaking the channel path. This can be unreliable - if the jack isn't pushed in enough you'll just record silence, and if it's pushed in too far you'll break the signal to the PA... which doesn't go down too well
The more reliable way is to use a special cable which has a TRS jack at the mixer end, with its tip & ring joined together. The jack can be pushed fully home without fear of breaking the channel. The other end is a standard TS plug which goes to the recorder inputs.
The audio in this video was recorded on a dp-32sd using a set of home-made TRS-to-TS cables. The signals from the PA mixer were the duo's 2 guitars & 2 mics, and the stereo output to the PA. Two additional mics arranged as a stereo pair were positioned facing the audience to capture ambience, so these went to another 2 inputs on the dp32, so all 8 inputs were used. Tapping off the signals this way means the recording levels can be adjusted without affecting the main PA mix, or vice versa.
The total recording was over 4 hours, and the dp32 behaved flawlessly, unlike the 3 camcorder batteries!
After the event, the audio tracks were exported to a DAW for editing, with the ambient mic feeds faded in & out between each song, and then synced and mixed with the 3 video feeds. It's not the best recording or mix, but it was my first attempt at anything remotely like this
The quick way of using inserts for this is to partially insert a standard jack cable so the signal can be tapped without breaking the channel path. This can be unreliable - if the jack isn't pushed in enough you'll just record silence, and if it's pushed in too far you'll break the signal to the PA... which doesn't go down too well
The more reliable way is to use a special cable which has a TRS jack at the mixer end, with its tip & ring joined together. The jack can be pushed fully home without fear of breaking the channel. The other end is a standard TS plug which goes to the recorder inputs.
The audio in this video was recorded on a dp-32sd using a set of home-made TRS-to-TS cables. The signals from the PA mixer were the duo's 2 guitars & 2 mics, and the stereo output to the PA. Two additional mics arranged as a stereo pair were positioned facing the audience to capture ambience, so these went to another 2 inputs on the dp32, so all 8 inputs were used. Tapping off the signals this way means the recording levels can be adjusted without affecting the main PA mix, or vice versa.
The total recording was over 4 hours, and the dp32 behaved flawlessly, unlike the 3 camcorder batteries!
After the event, the audio tracks were exported to a DAW for editing, with the ambient mic feeds faded in & out between each song, and then synced and mixed with the 3 video feeds. It's not the best recording or mix, but it was my first attempt at anything remotely like this
